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"I would we were all of one mind, and one mind good." --Cymbeline, V.iv.209-210. An English teacher's log. Slow down: Check it once in a while.

Sunday, September 17, 2006

Response to "Immortal Technique"

In a comment to the previous blog, Anonymous recommends for our listening the “4th Branch” cut on the album called Immortal Technique. Having listened to it and to some of the other cuts on the same album, I have to say that my empathic response is negative.

First of all, the rapper is neither singing nor speaking but pounding his words at us with no distinction of emphasis or hierarchy of importance. As writing teachers often will say, all emphasis is no emphasis. Therefore, we can’t discern where we are intended to find significance, and we are left to conclude that the meaning lies in the medium itself, the pounding phrases, the angry tone, the bitterness. There is, of course, room for righteous anger in art. But to what end is it exhibited here?

Second, the images delivered in the words are piled on so thick and fast that we feel we are in the presence not of insight or illumination but of propaganda. It doesn’t even matter what opinions or attitudes the words are trying to sell us. What we feel is that we are being harangued, rhetorically beaten into submission. All our effort to comprehend and judge rightness or wrongness, agreement or disagreement, all our hope to be submerged in meaningfulness, is thwarted by the brutality of the delivery and the presumption that whatever the message may be, it is being forced down our throats whether we like it or not.

Third, no particular image in the driving list of complaints is either clear or illuminating. For example, to liken Condoleezza Rice to Sally Hemings is certainly suggestive, but of what? Is the artist saying that Dr. Rice is no more than a slave concubine to the President? Does he realize what a remarkable woman Sally Hemings was, how important she was to Thomas Jefferson and so to the early years of the nation, how complex are the meanings of her role in American History? What, precisely, has the artist got against Dr. Rice? Or perhaps the line is intended as a compliment. For what? Apparently we are supposed to know already, which implies that the song is really intended not to provide an experience of meaning but merely to reinforce already shared notions—i.e., propaganda.

Finally, the background rhythm and sound are visceral, repetitive, primitive, brutalizing.

If I think of a student of mine walking around the school or the mall or his home or the beach or sitting in his car listening to this kind of music hour after hour on an iPod, which effectively shuts out the rest of the world and give this music sole sovereignty over his consciousness for the time he or she is absorbed in it, I cannot help fearing the effects: a hardening of the feelings into unreflecting anger; a reinforcement of the sense of being forever wronged, forever a victim; an impoverishment of the imagination of what is possible in music and in poetry; and an increasingly grim Manichean belief in the eternal war of darkness (“them”) and light (“me”).

Not one of the four classical and three theological virtues that tradition holds up for our aspiration (justice, wisdom, temperance, courage, faith, hope, and love) seems to be promoted by this song. Neither of the two experiences that Aristotle identifies as the purposes of art, delight and instruction, are evoked by it. Instead, it treats us to an ongoing, hopeless, helpless, demoralizing brutalization of our senses meant to convey to the listener a vision of reality as ugly, vicious, dark, and unredeemable.

Now no artist who really believes that reality is only dark and unredeemable would bother to make a work of art. But this artist and his producers do believe in selling such a picture of reality, a picture whose sales will provide the real-world benefits they do believe in: fame, money, female groupies.

Only artists themselves in despair of meaning, who worship the idol of worldly pleasure, could be willing to benefit from this poisoning of their own future by the poisoning of the imaginations of the young. I cannot hear such music without seeing in it either willful or abysmally ignorant corruption of the youth, the trampling on their hope and aspiration, for the sake of worldly gain. Corruption is in the words, the music, the attitude, the purpose, the goal, and the effects.

Under “Additional Personnel” the album lists artists named Crayz Walz, Pumpkinhead, Loucipher, Tonedeff, Diabolic, and Poison Pen. The names say it all. Why don’t we take them at their word?

I would welcome a cogent refutation of this argument, anything that might offer a sliver of hope to counteract the despair in which such music soaks the listener.

26 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Dr. Rapp, have you ever heard "Electrical Storm" by U2? It's from their nineties compilation album. It's pretty good, you should give it a listen and tell me what you think.

11:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Or, hey, while you're at it, check out Seal's "Love's Divine." That's not so bad either.

11:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ALthough I appreciate Immortal Technique, I would not call him a prime example of why modern music is relevant. I would like to talk to you about this issue at length, but in the meantime I will suggest that you listen to the album "Come On Feel The Illinoise!" by Sufjan Stevens.

4:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Rap,

I greatly admire your fortitude in listening to such noise (to call it music would be an insult to even the worst of genuine music - even the hilariously bad). I am afraid that it is probably impossible to find any truly "popular" modern music that merits being considered good art. However, there are a few that may have some value to them. Keane (http://mfile.akamai.com/3171/wm2/muze.download.akamai.com/2890/us/uswm2/621/519621_1_01.asx?obj=v40525) and Coldplay (http://mfile.akamai.com/3171/wm2/muze.download.akamai.com/2890/us/uswm2/540/452540_1_05.asx?obj=v40526) come to mind. Nonetheless, there are many less popular artists who have produced pieces that, while they may not be masterpieces, stand as good art in their own right. These include Evinescence (http://mfile.akamai.com/3171/wm2/muze.download.akamai.com/2890/us/uswm2/041/475041_1_04.asx?obj=v40218) and Enya (http://mfile.akamai.com/3171/wm2/muze.download.akamai.com/2890/us/uswm2/768/394768_1_02.asx?obj=v30521). I would argue that Riverdance (http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000005B2O001015/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_015/104-8341044-8334343) has unarguably some very fine music.

Michael Boutelle

6:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also find it quite fascinating that an artist like Weird Al is far more poignant that the majority of artists out there.

Michael

7:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pink Floyd- Animals, Dark Side of the Moon, The Wall
These are three of my favorite albums. All are heavily influenced by our nation's tradition in literature.

I came very close to writing a comparative essay last year on the parallels between not only themes from Dark Side of The Moon and The Great Gatsby, but also the sequence of their exploration. I still believe that this album was constructed as a musical investigation of the novel's main ideas. Track 3 (Time) clearly references Rabbit, Run (John Updike).

The second album, Animals, is a study of different types of people and their roles in society. This album has quite a negative view of the state of modern society, but does not illustrate that society itself is evil. Most analysis of our present condition is focused on limited human capacity for civilized correspondance and for understanding of the world's condition. "Sheep" is one of the most frightening pieces of art I have encountered. I would love to talk about it with you.

The third album, The Wall, deals with isolation, the dangers of excess, and persecution.

I would be happy to bring you all these albums if you are prepared to spend time listening to them. I've been listening to these three albums consistently for at least four years and still make connections to literature, other music, and my own experience each time I listen.

12:53 AM  
Blogger G.Rap said...

If you bring it to me, I will listen and respond. (I'm having trouble getting to the ones mentioned via internet. But I'm not ignoring. Just give me some time. Or, if you're nearby, get me the cd's in person and that will speed things up.)

6:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I apologize; the only link that works is the Riverdance. If you still have the desire to hear the rest of them, I will post working links below (a blank page will load and ultimately the music will start playing). Also, I agree with Patrick that Pink Floyd is good music (even that it is deep to a point), but I would add that it has a very postmodern worldview.

Riverdance: http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000005B2O001015/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_015/104-8341044-8334343

Enya:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000050XEI001002/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_002/104-5340424-7731143

Evinescence:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000089RVX001004/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_004/104-5340424-7731143

Keane:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000268QB2001001/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_001/104-5340424-7731143

Coldplay:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000069AUI001005/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_005/104-5340424-7731143

Michael Boutelle

1:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, I am now confused. The links I said did not work are now working, at least on my computer. The only thing that I can imagine is happening is that the site needs to install some sort of temporary applet to allow the playing of the music. Thus, to make it easier, just use the previous links I posted (to Amazon.com).

To access them. First go to any music page on amazon, ie.

http://www.amazon.com/Day-Without-Rain-Enya/dp/B000050XEI/sr=8-3/qid=1159646313/ref=pd_bbs_3/104-5893829-3687133?ie=UTF8&s=music

and click on any of the samples. Once it starts playing, you should then be able to directly input the links I gave to the web browser. How funny it is that I was trying to make things more straightforward.

Sorry,
Michael

1:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An artists view does not determine the quality of their work. The validity, clarity, and intensity of an artists communication of experiences and perspectives should be most important in the distinction between good and bad art. I'm not sure what was meant by the comment that Pink Floyd's music "Has a very postmodern world view." If this was posted with intent to undermine the capabilities of the artists, it cannot be considered relevant to that discussion. If, however this comment was meant only to provide additional interpretation of Pink Floyd's art, I would agree that through their music, they express postmodern views of the world.

2:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hurrah PA! Do me a favor and provide the professor with "Smashing Pumpkins - 1979".

5:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patrick,

Note that the first comment I made about Pink Floyd was that it is good music. That is not in dispute, nor did I question the artists' talents. However, I would argue that art, particularly good art, shows us truths about the world. If a work is promoting a falsehood, namely that there is no meaning to our existance, that piece has significantly undermined its value. It is not that it is then reduced to bad art; it merely does not have the material substance to rise to the level of a better work, one that gives us wholly genuine insight to the world we inhabit. That is, of course, not to say that Pink Floyd doesn't contain any truths. I am merely pointing out that a very large piece of his message is misguided.

Michael Boutelle

7:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, I feel so dumb now. All the links I posted above are terribly user-unfriendly. Please ignore all of them. This is the last time I will do this, I promise. The links below are to Google Video and You Tube. Putting them into a browser will go directly to the music videos. These also have the advantage of being complete songs. Here they are:

Riverdance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rub5q7Xl7OA&search=Lord%20of%20the%20Dance%20Michael%20Flatley

Enya: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-674345262068134072&q=Enya

Keane: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5969463931318817674&q=Keane+Somewhere+only+we+know

Evanescence: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5781477309979392078&q=Evanescence

Coldplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du6k1hJElqg

Michael Boutelle

4:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Now no artist who really believes that reality is only dark and unredeemable would bother to make a work of art."

This is probably obvious, but why not?

6:36 PM  
Blogger G.Rap said...

Because why would he bother. If everything is essentially nothing and meaningless, why bother to communicate anything, especially through a work of art, which takes WORK. Every artist, whether he knows or admits it or not, must be a believer in some sort of meaning. People who don't just waste away and die.

6:55 PM  
Blogger G.Rap said...

Update:

Thank you Michael for the workable links to the following, which I've now heard/seen: Riverdance, Enya, Evanescence, Keane, and Cold Play: Clocks. Comments follow. Thank you to Patrick for putting Smashing Pumpkins and Pink Floyd in my hands. I'll report soon.

Riverdance: The Irish line dancing would be more impressive if the video were less glitzy and top-down Hollywood/Vegas-style and more focused on the real footwork. The music, being electronicized was annoying. I longed for the sound and energy of traditional instruments. If you've ever seen live Irish dancing with live instruments played by masters, this video would seem pretty tame and denatured. But nothing more offensive here than blandness.

Enya: "You don't need a reason," "Let the rain go on," "Let the day go on," "Let it all go on": What more abysmal emptiness could there be? Images of denatured nature, some beautiful Italian stone buildings, and musicians where they don't belong. "Wild Child" romanticism with absolutely nothing compelling about it to me. Pure banality.

Evanescence: More denatured nature and piano and other instruments, more beautiful Italian stone and ugly tin roofing, a recumbent female with weird eyes rhyming here/fear/tear/year, pain too real, time cannot erase, I've been alone all along. My response, why do I care? Shut up and go get a job or help someone else. Stop rolling around on rooftops feeling sorry for yourself. In other words, this is unmoving emotion to more banal music. It leaves me cold.

Keane: The best part was that the singer looks a little like Patrick. More musicians playing instruments in denatured nature. Vague phrases like "I'm tired," "I need somewhere to begin," "the river makes me complete," "let's go somewhere only we know," etc. No content but vague feeling, as if that in itself were anything serious or important. Then the E.T. bugs multiply and suddenly have hearts. My response, give me a break. Do you expect me to take this piffle seriously?

Cold Play: Clocks: "Shoot an apple from my head," "tame the tiger," "come out singing," and other unrelated and mostly incomprehensible phrases, which I might get if I listened to it twelve times, but I can't bear to because the music is such a bore. Climax: "You are" (if I understood correctly). Very profound. You are. True. So what? You are WHAT? I confess I stopped it in the middle out of sheer boredom.

OK. On to Smashing Pumpkins and Pink Floyd. But I'm beginning to feel that you guys owe me some significant entertainment after I've put up with this much boredom. But I'm going to keep my word and listen till you're done sending me things to listen to. And I'll tell you my responses till you're sick of hearing it. And then, I will grab you and force you to listen to Mozart's Symphony #40. And then we'll see where meaning lies.

4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Rap,

I would never argue that the works I listed are comparable to Mozart; I was trying (appearantly unsuccessfully) to make the case that they had some value. With the exception of Riverdance, I have no disagreement that the videos were dumb (I note that a significant amount of your critique lies in this area). That is not why I linked them; it was purely for the music. I also did not mean for you to take too much time to take a listen (just the first 20 seconds or so), but that is my fault for not being more explicit. All in all, I think you are being a bit harsh, and for the record, the music from Riverdance contains no electronic instruments that I am aware of. It is all accoustic.

What entertainment, Dr. Rappaport, should I offer you? I have music that I know for a fact you would love, but what is it you would like? I wholeheartedly accept this obligation.

Michael Boutelle

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Rap,

I apologize in regard to Riverdance; I spoke much too quickly. Though that music is not accoustic as I had claimed, it is not wholly electronically synthesized either. The waveform itself is generated in the same way as a regular violin, but is electronically amplified to allow for greater control over the sound. Thus, the musicians were able to produce a tone on a violin that was inspired by traditional celtic instruments. Indeed, creating sound in this manner neither reduces the energy nor reduces the quality of the sound, as it is quite possible to recreate perfectly (and I mean perfectly to the extent that scientific instruments could not detect the difference) the sound of an accoustic violin on an electric violin. To insinuate that the electronic instruments inherently produce an inferior sound is simply not a valid criticism. If you dislike the sound of the traditional celtic instruments the musicians were imitating, or if you claim that the sound engineers did a lousy job at calibrating the instruments, those are perfectly valid stances to take. That seems to reduce this matter to personal taste, then.

On a completely separate note, I am most curious to learn of your opinion on Rachmaninoff. You keep citing Mozart as the benchmark, and I am interested in better understanding how you view music.

Michael Boutelle

3:50 PM  
Blogger G.Rap said...

I love the sound of traditional Celtic instruments. What I heard in Riverdance, perhaps because it was on the computer, sounded more electronic and therefore less entertaining to me. The other music bored me, and I suppose my annoyance at being bored came through as harshness.

No one is under any obligation to find me things to listen to. The whole conversation began with a discussion of how one judges music. I offered to listen to anything my students wanted me to hear and to respond honestly. But I'm certainly in no need of things to listen to. I have plenty!

When I was your age, I loved Rachmaninoff with a passion. Now I'm less patient with his drippy Romantic emotionalism, though there are times I still enjoy listening to him. Bach, Mozart, Beethove, and Schubert are far greater.

Next up, Pink Floyd and Smashing Pumpkins from Patrick A. and a whole collection from David C. as soon as I can get to them.

9:38 PM  
Blogger G.Rap said...

That's Beethoven. (Forgive me.)

9:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am curious as to how you can make such broad statements. What exactly enables you to say conclusively that Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, and Schubert are far greater than Rachmaninoff? They were each geniuses at their craft. You dismiss Rachmaninoff as drippy Romantic emotionalism. Certainly his works swell with emotion, but they are not without reason or thought. Indeed, I would argue that they are emotional works ruled by an underlying intelligence. Are Rachmaninoff's melodies as clear-cut as those created by the classical composers you mentioned? Of course not. He does something that is far more astounding in my opinion. There are moments where he seems to shove aside the "main" melody of a piece and put in its stead a melody seemingly formed out of "hues" of emotion. It is very difficult to explain. He builds a melody of such mind-bending complexity that it becomes difficult to evaluate as purely a melody. It becomes something more than what I am able to put into words. Nonetheless, it is still every bit as precise in its intelligence and meaning as those of the classical composers. Is there something wrong with passion and emotion even if they are ruled by great intelligence and deliberate intent? While you critique Rachmaninoff for "drippy emotionalism," one could argue conversely that the classical composers were dry and without emotion. If all it comes down to is drippy Romantic emotionalism, then by your own standard, Beethoven should not be on your list of "greats." Most of his later works contain no less emotionalism than Rachmaninoff. I am concerned at the celerity with which you classify things as inherently superior, inferior, or worthless; and I wonder why a thing cannot have value in one way even if other things are superior to it in all other ways.

The intent when I asked what entertainment you wanted was not about music. Indeed, I had figured that you were (judging by your posts) more than sick of other people's music. You wrote that you felt we owed you significant entertainment to compensate you for such boredom, and the idea, oddly enough, entertains me. I am merely inquiring as to what that "significant entertainment" would be. Besides, I feel a little guilty for giving you music that bored you to the point of annoyance.

But I am certainly biased to a great degree. A great teacher of mine (one of the best I have ever had) once showed me why the divine exists, the key to many things I learned thereafter. He asked me what I enjoyed doing more than anything else, and I replied that it was skiing. He then told me to imagine the perfect run, to imagine that perfection. He said that the perfection was a reflection of the divine. I understood completely, but skiing was not on my mind. Indeed, the only thing in my head was the finale from Rachmaninoff piano concerto number 2, movement 3.

Michael Boutelle

Of course, I find that internet banter has a way of making things appear more hostile than they are. I should probably make it clear that this post is devoid of sarcasm and irony.

1:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

due to the rigors of school i only have time to reply to one paragraph at a time, but i better start off sooner than later

Maybe it is you lack of knowledge of the subject (being rap) or indifference to the art form, but you seem to ignore some basic philosophies of Rhythm and Poetry, better known as rap. It is assumed that rap and hip hop music originated from the folk poets of Western Africa. These poets, known as griots, used drums and instruments to add significance and hierarchy to words and phrases. By adding “rhythm” to poetry, and removing verbal intonation, the emphasis was transferred to flow and the rhythm of the song intertwined with the words. Rapping envokes both cadence, dealing with the dynamics and patterns of the rhythm, and rubato, changes in tempo for the purpose of expression. When the percussion increases its speed to match the syllables of the word exactly, it becomes quite clear where the emphasis lies.

“First of all, the rapper is neither singing nor speaking but pounding his words at us with no distinction of emphasis or hierarchy of importance. As writing teachers often will say, all emphasis is no emphasis. Therefore, we can’t discern where we are intended to find significance, and we are left to conclude that the meaning lies in the medium itself, the pounding phrases, the angry tone, the bitterness. There is, of course, room for righteous anger in art. But to what end is it exhibited here? “

9:49 PM  
Blogger G.Rap said...

I don't dismiss Rachmaninoff. I love Rachmaninoff, and Michael is quite right that he is a very great composer. I only meant to say (and still believe) that he is not as great as those I mentioned. Teenagers are always reacting as if it's either all or nothing, one is either first-rate or negligible. There are many and subtle gradations of quality in works of art, and to say an artist is not among the towering greats is not to say he is bad. And there are degrees of badness too.

I did misunderstand Michael's offer of worthy entertainment. I'm sorry. I had forgotten my plea. So what I meant was, give me something to listen to that I will love to make up for the boredom. What would that be? How should I know. I already know what it is that I already love.

1:27 PM  
Blogger G.Rap said...

As for Makoto's instruction in the history of rap, I appreciate it very much. I didn't know most of it, and I find it interesting. However, it does not in the least alter my appreciation (or lack thereof) of what has become of rap in America. If he and I were African tribesman hearing the music he talks about in its original context, I am sure I'd value it as he says I should. But in the context of an American audience in our own time, with our own background, words, and musical experience, we simply are not going to hear rap as native Africans would have heard it. We hear it as who we are, and so we are meant to do. And as such, it remains, in my opinion, exactly what I said it was. A brutalizing and reductive pounding on a monochrome string.

1:30 PM  
Blogger G.Rap said...

Your bitter sarcasm is not appreciated. I don’t consider my praise “holy,” and no one forces you to read my opinions. It is obvious that I don’t spend my time listening to pop music and I don’t claim to know very much about it. This is mostly because I don’t want to. Most of what I have heard I find annoying if not disgusting (for reasons of anger, despair, and bitterness, or obscenity, or shallow sentimentality). I do not consider it an obligation to listen to every popular song that comes on the radio or gets a video spot on MTV, any more than I consider it my duty to see every gallery opening in New York or read every book published or see every movie Hollywood produces. No doubt I miss some gems in not being an artistic omnivore, but life is too short to spend it searching for jewels at the dump.

I do, however, appreciate it when someone points me in the direction of a work of art he or she thinks excellent for some quality, whether or not in the end I agree, and I usually try to take it in. My only claim is to respond honestly when someone invites or forces me to listen to something.

People love the songs that they associate with memories or feelings they enjoy remembering. I have such associations of my own with songs that I would not, as an impartial judge, consider particularly excellent. I am not against liking songs for such a reason. Nor am I interested in persuading people not to like the music they like for whatever reason. My opinions are offered to challenge people to judge the quality, meaning, and aesthetic value of the music they listen to. If my responses make you realize how wrong I am and how fine is the music you listen to—good. If they help you to articulate why it is fine—even better.

One more thing: There is no more potentially rancorous arena for argument than that of taste, and taste is what we are arguing about. Our taste, in a sense, is who we are, and whenever someone maligns our taste, we feel offended and become defensive. I am as guilty of this as anyone. What then? Shall we not discuss this matter? Shall I stop telling you why what I hear you listening to is annoying and you stop telling me that I’m wrong because it’s good? Or shall we continue to disagree, civilly if possible, and perhaps learn something from one another?

11:26 PM  
Blogger G.Rap said...

One of my students writes, "I would be interested if you would tell me what rap (if any) you do like and why."

I don't listen to rap unless someone specifically asks me to listen to a particular thing. Of the rap I have heard, I find the words usually offensive and the music always dispiriting. I don't blame anyone for liking rap, but I can't help feeling that they do so because it is all around them and because in our age sensation and cliche emotion have trumped intellection and spiritual aspiration as considerations in aesthetic judgment. If I were a teacher of music, I would do my best to draw young people toward appreciating work I think better, as I try to draw them toward better literature than drug store romances. But as I said above, life is too short to spend it trying over and over to find something redeemable in music whose intention seems to be to offend and distance anyone who has been driving for more than six years. My response to rap can be summed up thus: "Ho-hum, how soon can I turn my attention to something interesting?"

9:12 PM  

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